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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Mennock Reply with quote

An unusual one this, the Mennock WW1 memorial appears to have been paid for by a newspaper, The Weekly Despatch, for the village's response to Kitchener's call for volunteers. The three men listed at the top were all killed at Loos and were presumably part of Kitchener's army, the First 100K.
There are two John Maxwells listed and presumably the small marks at their names differentiate the two men, unfortunately I didn't notice this at the time of taking the photograph and can't make out what the marks are.

Mennock is in Nithsdale District and according to the Royal British Legion Scotland the memorial stands at Grid Reference NS 8084/0800


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a close up of the panel
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's a close up of the granit tablet at the base of the memorial. I would guess this was once part of the local school which has since been demolished and so it has been placed at the base of the community memorial.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Bravest Village Award" - a very interesting plaque indeed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have put an entry under schools for Mennock school referring to this memorial.

On my photos, I can just make out the 2 marks against the John Maxwells, they are 1 in a circle and 2 in a circle respectively. No idea what this means though.

The memorial does not appear to be listed on UKNIWM
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This memorial has been researched and details are on the Roll-of-Honour website at http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Dumfriesshire/Mennock.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S Bryden is also listed on the 2 Durisdeer memorials, the Mennock school and Sanquhar memorials, details available here http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=554

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the former Mennock school, now a private residence, which is why the school memorial was moved and fixed to the village memorial.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Mennock School War Memorial Plaque Reply with quote

This memorial was unveiled on 28/9/1921 in Mennock School in memory of the pupils of Mennock Village School who fell in the Great War. The memorial consits of a grantie tablet erected in the wall of the school in a conspicious postition near the main entrance door. It was the gift of Mr. McConnel of Eliock and Mr. W.E. Paterson, Craigdarroch.
Service was conducted by Rev David McQueen, North U.F. Church, Sanquhar and was unveiled by Miss Simpson, School Headteacher, Schoolhouse. -
From Dumfries and Galloway Standard, dated 1st October 1921.

When Mennock School closed the plaque was placed at the bottom off the Mennock Memorial.
Richard Bryden on this school plaque, not as pupil but as he had a long connection with the district.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Mennock Bronze Tablet Reply with quote

From Dumfries and Galloway Standard 18/2/1922 -
'The Bravest Village' the village of Mennock was awarded 2nd place in the 'Weekly Despatch' bravest village competition and has now been presented with a magificant bronze tablet, set in a polished alabaster slab, and bearing the names of those who answered Lord Kitchener's call to arms during the first six months of the war.
The tablet is the gift presented by Messrs H.B. Sale, Ltd., bronze manufacturers, Birmingham. A committee has been appointed to make arrangements for the erection of the tablet in a suitable place in the village. Its acquistition was due to the untiring efforts of Mr. Walter Chusholm, who compiled the names, rank, and regiments of the village lads.
The first place was gained by Knowlton, Kent, while the third went to the Orkney Islands.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details and photos of both of these memorials sent to UKNIWM today.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The obelisk itself is now WMR, ex UKNIWM, memorial 69546

The school tablet is memorial 69547
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The names from the two memorials in alphabetical order:

RICHARD BRYDEN
Richard Bryden – age 26 – Private (13610) 7th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Richard was a ploughman at Ingleston, Durisdeer, Dumfriesshire when he enlisted in September 1914. He landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915 but was killed two months later during the battle of Loos.
Born 1889 in Durisdeer, Dumfriesshire. Son of Janet Ferguson Bryden and of James Stitt. In 1891 and 1901 he lived with his grandparents Richard and Wilhelmina Bryden in Durisdeer but in 1911 age 21 he was a ploughman at Auchenson Farm, Mennock, Sanquhar.
Missing in Action on 25 September 1915 and named on the Loos Memorial, France.
Named on the Mennock Village and School memorials, on the Sanquhar War Memorial and on the Durisdeer Parish War Memorials.


JOHN McCRON
John McCron – age 34 – Lance Corporal (15450) 8th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
John was educated at Mennock Village School and at Sanquhar Public School. He enlisted in October 1914 and landed with his battalion at Boulogne in July 1915 but was killed two months later during the battle of Loos.
Born 1881 in Sanquhar. Son of Thomas and Annie (Crawford) McCron of Mennock Siding, Sanquhar.
Missing in Action on 25 September 1915 and named on the Loos Memorial, France.
Named on the Mennock Village War Memorial, on the Mennock School memorial, on the Sanquhar War Memorial and on the Sanquhar School memorial.


JAMES MERRIE
James Merrie – age 20 – Private (2038) 2/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
James was educated at Sanquhar Public School and was employed as a grocer when he enlisted. He died of tuberculosis in the City Hospital in Edinburgh.
Born 1894 in Mennock Village, Sanquhar as James Urie Merrie. Son of John (Station Master at Heads of Ayr Station) and Jane Brown (Broadfoot) Merrie of Station House, Ruthwell, Dumfriesshire.
Died on Service on 29 June 1915 and buried in Sanquhar Parish Churchyard Extension. (CWG)
Named on the Mennock Village War Memorial, on the Sanquhar War Memorial and on the Sanquhar School memorial.


ANDREW RODGER
Andrew Rodger – age 20 – Private (G/52864) Middlesex Regiment posted to 19th Battalion, London Regiment.
Andrew was educated at Mennock School and, aged 17, was a blacksmith at Dalpeddar Cottage, Mennock, Sanquhar when he enlisted as Private (083399) in the Army Service Corps in April 1915. He was posted to the Middlesex Regiment in France in May 1915 but was attached to the London Regiment. He was granted leave in July 1918 and returned to France in August but was killed a month later.
Born 1897 in Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire as Andrew Roger.
Son of Robert and of Betsy (Young) Roger of Mennock Bridge and of 42 Carronbridge Village, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire. His brother Robert was at Mennock Mill.
Missing in Action on 1 September 1918 and named on the Vis-en-Artois Memorial, France.
Named on the School memorial in Mennock Village and on the Sanquhar War Memorial.

and his brother

WILLIAM RODGER

William Rodger – age 19 – Private (51318) 16th Battalion, (2nd Edinburgh) Royal Scots.
William was educated at Mennock School. He enlisted in Glasgow and joined his battalion in France in March 1918 but was killed less than a month later.
Born 1898 in Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire as William Roger. (together with his twin sister Fanny) Son of Robert and of Betsy (Young) Roger of Mennock Bridge and of 42 Carronbridge Village, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Missing in Action on 16 April 1918 and named on the Ploegsteert Memorial, Belgium.
Named on the School memorial in Mennock Village and on the Sanquhar War Memorial.


WALTER SMITH
Walter Smith – age 25 – Private (14385) 7th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Walter served his apprenticeship as a joiner and cartwright in Sanquhar. He enlisted in October 1914 and landed with his battalion at Boulogne in May 1915 but was killed four months later during the battle of Loos.
Born 1890 in Holywood, Dumfriesshire as Walter Halliday Smith.
Son of William Smith, Coal Merchant at Holywood Station, and Sarah (Halliday) Smith of Polar Cottage, Holywood.
Missing in Action on 25 September 1915 and named on the Loos Memorial, France.
Named on the Mennock Village War Memorial, on the Mennock School memorial, on the Holywood Parish War Memorial and on the Sanquhar War Memorial.


MAXWELL TURNBULL, M.C.
Maxwell Turnbull, Military Cross – age 27 – Captain, 3rd Battalion attached to the 8th Battalion, Border Regiment.
Maxwell was educated at the Mennock Village School and at the Sanquhar Public School before serving his apprenticeship in the British Linen Bank branch in Sanquhar. He then took up an appointment in Jamaica but he returned on the outbreak of war and joined the 28th London Regiment (Artists' Rifles) as Lance Corporal (7361). He was commissioned in the Border Regiment in September 1916 and joined the 6th Battalion in France in October. He was wounded in December 1916 and promoted to Adjutant and Captain in August 1917. He was awarded an M.C. as T./Lt. (A./Capt.) Maxwell Turnbull, Bord. R. in the King's birthday honours in May 1918. Maxwell died of pneumonia in the 20th General Hospital in Camiers.
Born 1891 in Sanquhar. Son of David and Isabella (Beattie) Turnbull, of Eliock Sawmill, Sanquhar.
Died on Active Service on 18 October 1918 and buried in Etaples Military Cemetery, France.
Also named on the Mennock School and Sanquhar School memorials, on the Sanquhar War Memorial and on the St. Ninian's Church memorial in Sanquhar.
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