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paul Nixon
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 22 Location: India
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: Where would a Maryhill man be commemorated? |
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I've asked this question before on other forums but never had a definitive answer.
One of my Chailey men - Robert Mearns Hobbs - was born at Maryhill around 1895 and was probably still living there when he enlisted with the Scottish Rifles. He was a pre-war territorial as he was in France during the earlys stages of the war in 1914. He was killed in action in July 1917 and I would dearly love to find out where he is commemorated by name in Scotland.
The link to his page on my website is here: http://www.chailey1914-1918.net/robert_mearns_hobbs.html
Many thanks
Paul _________________ Remembering the men and women of Chailey, Sussex, England
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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Paul,
It's great to see you on this forum.
David has the WW1 Roll of Honour for Glasgow so I hope that he can help you out. _________________
Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear. |
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paul Nixon
Joined: 08 Jan 2007 Posts: 22 Location: India
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for your warm welcome Derek.
I don't know that the roll of honour gives the information that I am looking for. I believe that he is mentioned but I don't think it gives a location for a local memorial on which he is named. I've never got to the bottom of whether there is a memorial at Maryhill. One would assume that there must be - or at least plaques of some kind in churches - but I've never heard from anybody that they exist. Quite baffling really.
Hobbs is one of my favourites and I'd dearly love to find out more about him - or at least have a poppy placed where he is mentioned.
Paul _________________ Remembering the men and women of Chailey, Sussex, England
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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A man from MAryhill would probably be commemorated on the City of Glasgow Roll of Honour. I'll have a look tonight although in the past I've not had a great success rate on lookups from this Roll. |
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paul Nixon
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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David McNay wrote: | A man from MAryhill would probably be commemorated on the City of Glasgow Roll of Honour. I'll have a look tonight although in the past I've not had a great success rate on lookups from this Roll. |
Thanks very much David. There must surely be a local physical memorial of some kind as well though mustn't there? _________________ Remembering the men and women of Chailey, Sussex, England
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David McNay Administrator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 11425 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I think it might be the Cenotaph in George Square, which lists no names due to the number concerned. The Roll of Honour I have is a copy of the book which is in the City Chambers just next to the Cenotaph. |
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Barrie Duncan
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Hamilton
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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It's possible there may have been some kind of memorial at Maryhill barracks, which I think is long since gone.
What battalion of the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) was he in?
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paul Nixon
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Barrie
He was with the 5th Bn originally, was wounded on the Somme in 1916, patched up and posted to the 1st Bn where he was killed in 1917.
Paul _________________ Remembering the men and women of Chailey, Sussex, England
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David McNay Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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There is a plaque on what was the boundary wall of Maryhill Barracks, but I think it's just noting that it used to be the barracks. It's at a busy junction so I haven't been able to stop and look. |
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paul Nixon
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks David; you're probably right. _________________ Remembering the men and women of Chailey, Sussex, England
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Barrie Duncan
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Hamilton
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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When I get back to work next week I'll have a look through the regimental journal for the early 20s - there was a special edition published which dealt with the Regiments war memorials, it may make some mention of any memorials that have since been 'lost'.
Perhaps it may be worth a shot enquiring with Glasgow City Councils museums services in the off chance that they have any old memorials in their stores - I know both North and South Lanarkshire Councils have a couple of war memorials from buildings/churches/works etc that no longer exist, I would be very surprised if Glasgow City Council didn't have a few tucked away somewhere.
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David McNay Administrator
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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I enquired a while back if there was anything that could be viewed at hte Glasgow Museums Resource Centre (I think that's the name). You can apparently do a tour tailored to your specific interest. They told me that they had almost nothing of interest for the First World War.
There may, of course, be memorials stored elsewhere but I would have thought they would be there as that's the main storage area for Glasgow Museums. |
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David McNay Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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No Robert Mearns Hobbs in the Glasgow City Roll of Honour I'm afraid. |
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Barrie Duncan
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Hamilton
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Paul,
No info on the plaque as yet I'm afraid. There is a nominal roll of all the men who landed with the 5th Bn on 5/11/1914 at the back of the battalion history, in which Hobbs is listed as being part of Number 3 company (they appear to have still been using the 8 company system in 1914). There is a cross next to his name to indicate he had died during the war, although he is absent from the Roll of Honour in the same book - presumably because he was transferred to the 1st Bn (the book used SDGW as the source for their Roll of Honour).
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