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IanA
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: Nenthorn |
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IanA
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IanA
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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These photos were taken under a heavy snow cloud and light conditions were poor. The image of the second face of the memorial suffers from camera shake and I will see if I can transcribe the names from that. (There are only two inscribed sides.)
At the junction of the A6089. Designed by A. C. Anderson, an octagonal shaft on a square base. A shield incised with a Saltire surmounts it. |
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jamiemcginlay
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 930 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've never seen four pipers on the same memorial before, very unusual I wonder what the story is? |
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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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UKNIWM Ref No. 8540
Os Map ref NT675375 at junction of A6089 and unclassified road to Nenthorn House _________________
Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear. |
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IanA
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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The other face had four names from the Second World War on it:
Pte Alex Ferguson. A.C.C.
Pte James Frizzel. A&S.H.
Cpl George Purves, R.M.
W/Com Ronald R. Thomson D.F.C. |
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DerekR Moderator
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 3013 Location: Hawick, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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jamiemcginlay wrote: | I've never seen four pipers on the same memorial before, very unusual I wonder what the story is? |
The 4 listed all served and died with the 1/4th KOSB at Gallipoli, 2 dying on the infamous 12th July. The four are all recorded as PRIVATE on the SDGW.
Robert Grant is another interesting name as he is also listed on the Liddesdale War Memorial some 4o miles away - another 1/4th casualty of 12th July 1915. _________________
Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear. |
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Malcolm
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 184 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: Any good? |
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Ian ,
I couldn't resist clearing your weather up. Any good??
Ian's photo.jpg
Aye
Malcolm |
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IanA
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Brilliant!!
Show off! |
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Adam Brown Curator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 7312 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Here is an alphabetical listing of a transcription I made of this memorial a few years ago:
1914-1918
ELLIOT , Frank , Trooper , Scottish Horse
GIBB , William , Private , King's Own Scottish Borderers
GRANT , Robert , Private , King's Own Scottish Borderers
HARDIE , James , Private , 13th Bn Canadian Expeditionary Force
HARDIE , Thomas , Sergeant , Seaforth Highlanders
HENDRY , Andrew , Piper , 4th Bn King's Own Scottish Borderers
INGLIS , Andrew , Lance Corporal , Machine Gun Corps
KERR , James , Piper , 4th Bn King's Own Scottish Borderers
LUNHAM , Thomas , Piper , 4th Bn King's Own Scottish Borderers
MOFFAT , Thomas , Private , King's Own Scottish Borderers
ROBERTSON , Robert , Private , Royal Scots
WOOD , Frank , Piper , 4th Bn King's Own Scottish Borderers
1939-1945
FERGUSON , Alexander , Private , Army Catering Corps
FRIZZEL , James , Private , Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
PURVES , George , Corporal , Royal Marines
THOMSON , Ronald R , Wing Commander DFC , Royal Air Force
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Merseman
Joined: 07 Aug 2013 Posts: 339 Location: Duns, Berwickshire
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:07 am Post subject: |
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The Scotsman, 3rd November 1920
NENTHORN - The war memorial at Nenthorn, near Kelso, takes the form of a market cross with suitable inscription. The unveiling ceremony was performed by the Earl of Haddington, and the dedicatory prayer was offerred up by the Rev GH Young MA, minister of the parish.
The Buildings of Scotland - Borders, p582
War Memorial, at the junction with the A6089. By AC Anderson, 1920. Octagonal shaft on a square base topped by a shield incised with a Saltire Cross. |
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Merseman
Joined: 07 Aug 2013 Posts: 339 Location: Duns, Berwickshire
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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This has evidently been restored/comprehensively cleaned.
I include the WW2 face.
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DelBoy
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 4858 Location: The County of Angus
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:57 am Post subject: W.Com. Ronald Roumieu Thomson |
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A couple of things here.
Isn't it odd that the last man on the memorial, Wing Commander Thomson doesn't have his branch of service listed, perhaps a confused stone mason took his D.F.C. as an abbreviation for his corps!?
Also what's with the "Trade: Pilot"? Never seen that on CWGC before.
"Roumieu", I wonder how that's pronounced He went to Cambridge so should have an entry in the University Roll of Honour.
THOMSON, RONALD ROUMIEU
Rank: Wing Commander
Trade: Pilot
Service No: 61512
Date of Death: 19/02/1945
Age: 30
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 114 Sqdn.
Awards: D F C
Grave Reference: Coll. grave I. C. 3-5.
Cemetery: UDINE WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Albert David and Doris Roumieu Thomson; husband of Marion Elizabeth Thomson, of Kelso, Roxburghshire. M.A. (Cantab.). |
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Adam Brown Curator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 7312 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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And here are the other three Second World War names
FERGUSON, ALEXANDER
Rank: Private
Service No: 215220
Date of Death: 05/06/1946
Age: 37
Regiment/Service: Army Catering Corps
Grave Reference: Sec. A. Grave 19.
Cemetery: NENTHORN NEW BURIAL GROUND
Additional Information: Son of Alexander and Sarah Ferguson; husband of Isabella Paterson Ferguson, of Newton Don, Roxburghshire.
FRIZZEL, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 2984210
Date of Death: 10/03/1943
Age: 24
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, 8th Bn.
Grave Reference: 12. D. 14.
Cemetery: MEDJEZ-EL-BAB WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of James and Mary A. Frizzel, of Nenthorn, Berwickshire.
PURVES, GEORGE E.
Rank: Corporal
Service No: Ex 660
Date of Death: 01/01/1943
Age: 24
Regiment/Service: Royal Marines. R.M. Group, M.N.B.D.O.(L).
Grave Reference: XII. C. 6.
Cemetery: MORO RIVER CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Robert John Purves and of Elizabeth Jane Purves (nee Reavley), of Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland; husband of S. K. Purves, of Jedburgh.
M.N.B.D.O. stands for Mobile Naval Base Defence Organisation. I can't find out what the L stands for. Note the date of death for Marine Purves which is 1st January 1943 and before the Allies landed in Italy where he is buried. |
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Adam Brown Curator
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 7312 Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Adam Brown wrote: | M.N.B.D.O. stands for Mobile Naval Base Defence Organisation. I can't find out what the "L" stands for? |
I wonder if "L" stood for Libya and Marine Purves had been captured at Tobruk?
An alternative is "L" for Landing? The MNDBO seem to have been a multi-unit group of artillery, signals, beach landing specialists etc. They also seem to have a connection to the Commandos.
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